Done my administrative walking-tour ... ok, for the moment only ... I really hate things like advocates, banks, insurence companies and other such administrative stuff ... mostly costs money, often brings anger and rarely you get money back without becoming massive ...

But now I have time again so will come up with materials for the V4 second skin.
Ok, you will need to plug in the correction for your jumper in the breast region. But the rest should work out of the box.

It will be without the leg seam at the moment. I got some trouble and posted to baggingsbill but he seems to be busy. So no further answer at the moment.

Quote - - I need to stop adding things though.

:rolleyes:  I'm knowing that ... in this case with the suit it's all on a small base. But some months ago I've seen again "The Boat" in TV. You might know, Petersen's great WWII u-boat (submarine) movie. I'm not sure how the title was in the english/american version.

So finding the adequate Type VII boat I thought it would be a good idea to build something like the sluice for some bye-bye scenes. OK, but only the sluice ... there should be some surroundings ... got the idea to have something like a fortress alongside the sluice ... a big angular wall with windows in it and some gun ports at the roofside and a stair so it could be used also for the napoleonic era.
Then there is never a sluice without some port bassin and a mole at sea side. So the building could also look nice in a today's yachting scene ... thought back to my memories of the yachting harbour's from mediterranian ports like Piraeus/Athens.
At last I decided to have a small lighthouse at the end of the mole.

The model came quite well as a rather low poly mesh ... and then my surprize loading into poser ... it was tooooo big.
Not that it not loaded but in the preview I see only the front parts. All in greater distance, e.g. the lighthouse isn't seen. But it's there if rendering. Also you have no chance to position the cameras easily. You can forget main or aux going out to the lighthouse. The only one with more or less well behaviour is the posing cam but only if you position a figure at that region and use it as selected figur.  So not a good workflow over all. Might be Vue or Bryce might be better in such things.

I now have to cut the model down into handy pieces ... and up to now I'm not sure which cut's might be best to be a bit universal.

So that's the outcome if putting idea's together without stopping at some point ...

On other hand in my example it might be better for a distance image to use one of the landscape renderers and to use poser for it's natural task to pose people and make rather close images. So you need only for example the tower of the submarine for a good image with people that could be recognized as such. Ok, and a bit from the bow/stern if looking forward/backward.

If making fantasy images it's not such a problem having some background. Can take a forest image or something else. But in scenes like in example that sluis it's essential to have a appropriate environment and to find images which matches seamless to the front scenery is difficult.

Ok, using V4 it's even no question. First I think there was never seen a woman on a Type VII tower ... ok, imagination might help get over that. But on a outgoing submarine there was not only one or two persons seen but up to a dozend or so ... and therefor using V4 (with some clothing) might not sink the submarine but definitively Poser itself ... :lol:
In that cases the old P4 people are hired as crew for the boat or even all boats or vehicules there only one would be a bit lonesome ...

I'm really curious about the surprizes you are promising ... oh, forgot it's x-mas the time of surprizes ... :rolleyes: