Heee x3!...look who's here! By the way, what is the copy number on your Vue first 100 owner's certificate. Mine is No. 37. As for speed, I do feel that there is some increase overall. I can't say anything about speed for Volumetric stuff rendering as there is nothing to compare with previous version. One thing for sure though, beats the hell out of Bryce 4 when rendering speed for volumetric is concern. Have to check Bryce 5 out on this one if they have a new rendering engine. One thing I must admit is that...I prefer Bryce Volumetric clouds better. How's Xfrog doing with Vue? Have not try it yet, probably will, very soon...just love those trees from Xfrog! CAn't wait for their new release of tree library...all tropical fuit trees :) Varian..just a gentle note...errr...I luv running over beautiful fence, including "barb" wires type when I get bullied to the edge of the cliff...LOL! Have fun too :)