yes Beck, now not even Varian will be immune to the MOD bull. heh. I told him I'd get him back, and he seems to have fallen right into my little scheme. Some things in life are just too easy...MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ............... And you know, also, what with Vue 4 out now, as well as the free Vue 2, combined with Lynn telling me there are alot of people taking advantage of E-on's competitive upgrade from Bryce, I imagine this forum will continue to keep getting busier and busier. :)