Hi Laurie! So Vue will take a 2d image just like Bryce does? (have not got into trying that). I need to look for a photo of one..I can cut one out (a tedious prospect, with all those leaves, sigh) with my paint program... don't go to any bother... I was just observing that this popular tree in Australia and the western US is not in any tree program that I know of... and it is a neat tree.... so I thought I would put the word out...and see what information comes in! :) Thanks! Sara (sparkel)