Kaom: I am with you. We ware promised a patch this month, it is already the 23 and I don't see Eovia dumping a patch on us if they are so close to releasing Carrara 2.0, which I will not get until the product that I bought more than a year ago works!! Carrara is so unstable that I stop doing 3D work altogether. It seems Eovia is in real need of some $$$ and the patch wold actually work against them at this point since if Carrara was made to work good, we would put up upgrading for some time. But if they think I am going to through money at them for something that was supposed to work right in the first place, they got another thing coming.