the reason i cite VRay is becuase they of course are in competition with Mental Ray and other variants and looking for an angle, and they have now gotten in line with trueSpace. 

I have trueSpace 5.0 and the offer to me is full upgrade to trueSpace 7.5 with VRay for $595 (was $495 until offer expired the other day) and the new user price is $895.

I have to imagine that there have a  least been conversations between EF and VRay. I have no evidence, however.

Hey dale, you got the deal! The only reason I hesitated was......no cloth sim and new hair sim in TS. Let me ask you this one question....

Can you move a fully realized Poser ANIMATION, with dynamic hair and cloth, into trueSpace and then render with VRay?

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