Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: OT? -- Poser insulted at 3DBuzz, I decided not to let it pass

operaguy opened this issue on May 14, 2007 · 242 posts


bagginsbill posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 8:31 AM

I think we're getting a little off point here. The question "what is art" is not the central theme of the problem I see, but people keep making it about that. Here are some direct quotes that hopefully will make clear why there is cause to cry foul:

**main reason that ppl don't like poser is that it only use model import, cos you are not making the art it self but using coustem build model that is not yours

most CG artest who have learned Max, Maya or XSI would trun there nose up at Poser

you might want to consider messiah for animation. It's better than MB (imo) and cheaper. That way you can take the money saved and spend it on altering other people's work and saying it's your own art.

Me personally, and this is just my opinion and not any definite truth, do not think that an image like the girl where the model is pre made by someone else is as much art as if someone would have modeled, textured, and posed her himself.

I just like my work to be mine, not a modification of someone else's. I don't trace other people's drawings and rearrange them to make my 2d pictures, so why should I with my 3d ones?

I would take the rankest beginner's work in Max or Maya or MS Paint over yet another Poser render any day.
**In other words, the theme over and over is that if you don't model, you are not an artist, you are a plagiarist, which is a ridiculous point of view. And since Poser can't be used to model (mostly) then it everything you render in it is, by definition, not art. That is the absurd proposition that I find objectionable. I don't mind if you want to call me a technician, as I've never claimed to be an artist. When my gallery post gets a comment "beautiful art" - I shrug it off as a matter of opinion that is pleasing or displeasing as you see fit, but not relevent. What I care about is that my shader is better than it used to be after 100 hours of technical work, and I'm happy if somebody else uses my shader to make art in Poser. Similarly, if I were a modeler, and I made a cool model and somebody else used it in a movie, I'd be very pleased instead of calling the movie producer a plagiarist.


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