I haven't done Mark's vertex tutorials yet so I'm trying to do this with splines (it's actually for the 'hood' of the light shade for a rr x-ing light signal that I've been modeling using the spline modeler for all the pieces). For the hood I already tried using a combination of the different spline modelers and then tried again after seeing Mark's response, but although closer now apparently I'm just not using the right sequence of points/movements. Will try again tonight after work. Thanks guys.

Paul