I have seen people doing long animations in poser alone. So it is posible to do this. You have to accept certain limitations, but it is cheap. Chris D. has a list on egroups/yahoo called poseamation (IIRC) that is certainly worth a look. He is an ex disney animator and a real nice guy. Part of the key is doing a series of short animations and putting them togther in a composing package, not trying to do a single 9000 frame animation. Poser don't like that trick.