WOW! You dug this post up from December 2004!!! I had forgotten all about it. It was originally for V2, so thats why there is some difference. When you say "long rendering time", thats very relative to other settings. For me a "long render time" constitutes anything around an hour. The posted image, full onslaught of the highest settings at an resolution of 1280x800 was about 45 min. (and i still dont like it) What settings are you using? Regards, E