I wasn't sure how to go about it. I thought I'd try modeling a different way. I have always box modeled most stuff, unless it was curves in Shade. This way is my first attempt. That's why I thought to ask what others are doing. The mouth does needs more loops. This is just the start. I also need to do the same thing with the eye lids, nose and I haven't even started the ears. I started with a basic out line and have just winged it so far. I'm not even sure what it is yet. But I will when it's finished. LOL.