Operaguy, those Poser realism examples you gave are excellent, but do you honestly believe they would hold up to scrutiny in an animated situation? I mean, most of them seem to be using baked-on specularity and reflections for the eyes and skin. That last example in particular looks like the eyes are definitely postworked, even though he says no postwork. Not accusing him, of course, just my opinion. I'd have to see it animated like that to convince me otherwise. Also, none of them are using any noticable shadows. One in particular has teeth that appear to glow. In my opinion, these examples work nicelyu for stills, but most of that realism would fall apart quickly if animated for any prolonged length of time.