My issue is becoming more clear. The lockup occurs when I go back into the shader and try and make changes once I've applied a Veloute' grid to an object. I can set it up and then change rooms, render, but not go back for more changes. For anyone using Anything Goos... is it stable? I want to pick up the new package - Goos, Toon Pro, etc. but with problems ( and maybe they are problems with my system.. I don't know yet ) I am afraid to pay out for buggy plugins. Architools and Anything Grows are plugins from inagoni and dcg, both work great! Robert

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