C5Pro has arguably the best render engine available for a 3D application Ohhhh... yeah, I'd say that's a bit beyond arguable, considering 3 of the top 4 high-end 3d packages (Maya, 3dsmax, Softimage|XSI) all come with MentalRay as a default render engine. I think Carrara's engine is great, but I've used MentalRay before, and it's depth and versitility are far superior to Carrara. For the price, however, I agree with you.