Yeah those may be nice and real working applications. I want them all but it can be so annoying with import/export for every object expecially with little ones. ZBrush is a real benefit for modellers to spend some detail work on it with either polygons or texture maps. It has symmeterical modeling tool. I could make a character within minutes with joints already made and connected with skinning. I am keeping it with any other 3D application that I may need to use it with. Lightwave may be real benefit but the interface seem to be very annoying, may require learning curve, and may require alot of my time & patience to get things done with it. Carrara got me tempted and took my attention away from lightwave. If Eovia implement one more tool that I need for me to be able to make base models, I would be happy to use Carrara to make a complete scene. It need symmeeterical modeling tool DAMN IT!!