Ok, I stand corrected on Hiro then, $30.00 to get going, that is reasonable. I bought Miki, but I frankly have a "realism" problem with her...she is afflicted with the bad shoulders, inward bowing upper arm and bent drinking straw syndrome, like Victoria and Jessie. So, I really can't stand her with skin-tight clothes, bare shoulders or nude period. This is not made up for just because her head can be morphed into realistic looking Asian characters. It is a deal killer. In that sense, she is NOT realistic. What intrigues me now is the possibility of Aiko with her "realilsm" dial set to 1, but then a toon render. I see the same shoulder etc. problems in Aiko and Hiro, but in most renders they do not look as bad. And a toon render is forgiving; the audience suspends disbelief and allows "symbolic representation." ::::: Opera :::::