Yes on the AG for the sea plants - I think they're sea cucumbers... I need to go back and make the stems thicker, add smaller, finer whiskers on the "petals" along with the longer whiskers, and maybe add bones to give the sea cucumbers a more "alive" look. I have a bone problem that I will encounter - the starfish has only one boned arm because when I went to bone all the arms, I ran into the angle problem. Is C5 set to handle these angles? An "x" is doable since it can be aligned like a "+" and boned, then spun 22.5 degrees... but a five sided figure like a starfish will have odd degrees... has anyone ran into this yet? I'll have to figure this out for the octupus to work. Back to Sitka, yes, I want to visit some day. My wife and I just visited my mother in Texas - now my wife wants to move! I grew up here, but I don't think I'll miss the cold. New question to the group: My primary job is not in the 3d market, but I would like to freelance. May I ask, who works in the industry and what ideas do you have for someone who wants to do "side" work? Robert

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