Actually they are amazing to my eyes at this point. I pulled As Shanim out of the hat just as an example... :) I would realy -LOVE- an as detailed as you can humanly manage tutorial for these. The bottom three in particular each in turn handle issues that I think would be nightmares to figure out for the first time. I might be wrong, but that's how they look to me at present.

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