50% of whats written in EULAs is illegal or unenforceable anyway, so I wont write what I think of them in mixed company. ;-) (Another example: While E-Frontiers EULA says you cant resell Poser on ebay, its perfectly legal here in Europe to do so. The simple fact is that for goods bought in Europe European consumer law superseeds any EULAs a US company has dreamed up. Its that simple.) I hope that the latest SONY/rootkit desaster will finally put an end to this nonsense and bring back some fairness for the consumer. Sorry, but DAZ happily sells VWs, Ferraris, Austins and other copyright protected meshes without license and you think they would stand a chance suing someone because they think his pose sets or joint settings were too close to their own ? I was thinking of modifying NEA so she could wear V3 clothing, but there is already Steph I MAX out there who can do this, and making a NEA/V3 hybrid was easier anyway. Do you really think DAZ would have been able to sue me if I would have copied V3s JPs to do so ? Even IF that part of the EULA would be valid, how will you proof that I ever agreed to it ? That I ever actually downloaded V3 and installed her, and not came up with the joints by myself just by matching NEA to one of Vickys free clothings ? Theres a lot of tough talking going on in Poserland, but I yet have to seem someone back it up with actions. stahlratte