dbigers: "It is an embarrassment of riches so to speak." You may consider me as one of the riches. The products I have was for my investment and that is the way of life making money. I can't live with just a milk and bread. I considered Carrara as a good product and want to invest my time on it rather than spend my time on other apps. No doubt that everyone likes Carrara's interface. I may like it and I do not need derogatory comments from users about what apps I should use because it crosses my boundary. Modeling rooms are included in Carrara and it really need basic essential tools for me to be able to use Carrara more than my other apps. It is absolutely no excuse for Eovia not to include symmetry in VM room, it is really simple and essential tool for modeling. They are using forks behind our back to buy Carrara 5 with useless modeling room. LCBoliou: Goood to know that it uses light physics!! :)