Shonner: I am not type of a member who likes to have gallery here. Ren Mem: I just know Ringo is well known members who have alot of information on Carrara product and may have close relationship with Eovia team. Didnt anyone notice someone from Eovia team post thread in Renderosity? dlk30341: Yes my request information on symmetery function is reasonable and it would help me decide to purchase upgrade. Unfortunately, as a modeling user, I can careless about new implementatiions that was posted in C5 announcement. I am waiting to hear a comment from Eovia on symmeterical function that I asked for many years since RDS era. ;)