Thank you all for the very good advice. Ordered Carrara today. Soon I should have many interesting hours to fill. Hummm. I never considered Poser a 3D program. Have version 4 and never could get anything out of it. All my renderings came out looking like Barbie dolls that melted. Now you all have me getting scarred. Well at least it has got to be better than Ulead Cool 3D! No? Again thanks all.