For all those who bad mouth Bryce it does one thing better than any other 3d program I have work with. If you want a absolute stunning land scape or a outdoor environment and have the time to wait for some very long rendering times then Bryce beats any other app. hands down. At 100 dollars it is what it is, as other said try everything you can get your hands on. All 3D programs have strengths and weakness, try them all and make up you own mind. Dale