Thanks Eric! Monday when I get back to my studio I will give it a try. I appreciate the info and hope to become a working part of this forum. As a way of saying thanks - please check out this movie... I was recently a part of a Hollywood production that is now playing on HBO and also available on DVD at blockbuster Video. It is called Tough Luck. It is about a crooked carnival owner played by Armond Assante (he was the cop in Striptease with Demi Moore a few years ago). I painted dozens of the 'freaks of the sideshow' banners, assorted props, t-shirts, logos and vehicle graphics for the film. check it out - its a strong 'B' movie.