First off, Casette, no beeef with you, those are wonderful renders... and in fact I was expecting I would have to withdraw my criticism entirely once I saw the images given who you are. They really are beautiful. BUT http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=924771 Jessie does actually look good from the back... this has always been evident. The shoulder/shoulder blade work is lovely although hardly realistic unless you look at body builders. The hips are a bit vavavavoom and the buttocks are kinda P4 but I would never complain about any of that. The ears are pretty strange and I have had trouble doing anything to help them or even change them significantly... they seem modeled from an anatomy drawing rather than a human... perhaps this is also the case with the lovely but exaggerated upper back musculature. Those ears though, huge round helix like a chimpanzee and they swoop down and under the concha like they are handles, no scapha there so the big sharp and too high anti-helix gives what used to be called a cauliflower ear, esp. with the anti-helix flattening out into the fossa. Why is the anti-tragus caved into the concha? Why is the lobule concave and articulated with bits of mysterious cartilage? And the tipped out tragus makes it look like they are deployed for take off. Any elementary drawing manual would have attended to these matters. P4 had great ears except for no ear canal in the inter-tragic notch... but you could morph the hell out of them. http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=936411 Off the rack, the one face that real does look good on her. The skin texture??? very odd pore structure on forehead but we are not talking textures. Strange edge on eyebrows, most people dont have any sort of sharp edged skin or bone ridge underneath their eyebrow hairs. Flipped down lower lip (chip or sex pot?) and low nose tough to work with. Bump at bottom of chin odd (a reverse chin cleft?). Teeth odd, rectangular flat edge-bevelled teeth set straight across, have never seen that and I used to cast inside peoples mouths when I did hyper-real human figure creation for Museum dioramas. Could cut your self on that septum. The finger joints are a mess. Those knuckles are far scarier than the pose -arthritis? http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=937237 Utterly gorgeous Render. Toon? Yes of course. Implants, yes (silicone not saline), weird P4 deltoid, yes (I have seen pronounced deltoids in RW but never rectilinear). God! Those hands again spooky. Clavicles are the freakiest yet maybe she is nude because her collarbones sheared right through her gown. Definition under the rib cage but no evidence of ribs in my experience it works the other way. Cleft between the rectus abdominus without the six pack? Yes I have seen that from time to time. Why is her belly over her pubis rather than her hips, have not seen that. She has the only female genitals I would EVER describe as a slit. I have never seen flat (as opposed to chubby) vulva with opening coming high like that. She looks unfortunately accurate for an Egyptian, with the cleft running that high the clitoris would be visible if she had one. She is so toned in the thorax and shoulders but she must exercise sitting down the thighs are flabby and un defined the knees? Maya doll nothing more to say. This is a fusion of Maya doll and P4. Judy was based on a believable woman from the neck down. My background? 4 years as an art student, five years as an art and art history graduate student, nearly twenty years as a drawing and anatomy instructor and seven years as head of a painting and drawing program. I have drawn litteraly hundreds of nude people. I was also in Ballete highschool and undergrad so I have seen some "ideal" examples of the human animal not just gorgious strippers and the rest of the assorted bunch that work as models at art schools. I know these CL/RDNA people are probably engineers not artists most likely, but Judy was such good work and you can buy Jack Hamm Drawing the Head and Figure for $7.95 on Amazon. He understood how to make gorgeous sexy pinups that were plausible as homosapien. Free content, its not a complaint, its just an observation Jessie is a toon figure. This is just in the spirit of serious criticism... I do own P4 and third party figures with which I am happy. Thank you for the renders, Casette, they realy are beautiful.