Personalities aside, if an application does what you want it to, in a way that makes sense to you, and you can come up with the cash to buy it, what it costs is pointless. With everyone putting up a downloadable demo, the days are over of just comparing spec sheets put out by the companys sales departments. I might listen to what someone I respect has to say about a particular application, but Id still grab the demo before I take out the charge card. mdc So as to not contribute to the further highjacking of this thread; Hexagon looks like something I will defiantly want take for a test drive.