There is a genuine increase in realism if you put Vicki 3-- not out of the box, but carefully morphed-- next to a carefully morphed V2, I find that most V2's just don't have the detail to get truly photo real, if that's what you want. Now, some textures like Asia and Yuma counteract this, but then everyone starts looking like Asia and Yuma. And some of the very very best V2 and M2 textures are no longer available because of copyright problems. On the whole, if your urge is to go more and more realistic, I think the unimesh figures are probably the way to go-- the major exception in my mind is the PreTeen girl, who no one has been able to surpass. V2 works very well, even better and more delicately, for stylised and fantasy characters than V3. For fantasy unimesh, I tend to stick to very few texture makers or I use Stephanie Petite. My major problems with Vicki 3 is she's too hefty. Other than that, if you like V2 and M2-- and for some uses nothing really beats the outright masculinity of M2--the only reason for moving up to unimesh is the lack of any new clothing for them. Since PhilC and a bunch of other people are working on a product that will easily convert clothing between anybody[ok, so they say, and it's not going to be a freebie, probably not by a long shot] that may be a moot point in a little while. How long, though, I don't know. It would sure make things easier. In the last analysis, if you really really like the pre unimesh figures, and I use Stephy 1 a whole lot, no one is going to shoot you if you continue to use them. You just won't get very many new duds to dress them up with, if any. But, specs2 stuff is still out there,PoserWorld does mass fits of their most popular outfits, plus there's As Shanims old freebies, and the back pages of Rdna's catalog-- which has some killer clothing in it. And one can get by on huge runtimes of V2 clothing if you've been at it awhile. I feel for those just starting out though. Mainly cause the choices are not really there. It seems to me most V2 clothing for sale has been discontinued here. Not all though. I think Tiff's textures are still here, I hope, and they are lovely. Oh, supposedly something called VickiPro is in the works. Don't ask me what she does, looks like or wears though-- ain't got a clue. I only managed to save my budget from Hiro fever at the eleventh hour. So I dread the very idea of VickiPro. [Pity the poserholic whose money is running out] Emily