Like I said before that the photons seem to improve in Poser 6 for true shading and subsurface scatter to work but the color shading is still sh*t $#@$#@#. I am not too enthanisic to get a copy of Poser 6 period! Firefly doesnt help renderer in anyway except the maps, matrials. Renderer really need upgrade so bad. I hate the coal painting on every images in Poser. Renderer is the last thing that need the UPGRADE to make it worthy for professional use. Anyhow I get sick of importing and exporting poser scenes to other softwares that can do better renderer.