I don't know, R77. I doubt these people would put their reps on the line for a couple bucks. Jarm wrote: "Has anybody got any news on general program performance/stability?" That's what I'm interested in most. Here are some hopeful quotes from the reviews: "...advanced and hyper-stable version of this software" and "...Integrated Image Based Lighting (That renders FAST!)" and "...you have a stable and fun program!" Heh, stable and fun. Something P5 surely was NOT, for me anyway.