" Reading back over the thread, its a bit disconcerting to see so many negative comments so far on this issue of we havent been told enough." I've to agreed what is said here. Either you game on taking it up now or wait. As for myself, I know I will get Poser6 sooner or later. With the xtras offering from CL now for a limited time, why not take advantage of it. Bugs or no bugs, sooner or later, the program would get better anyway and moreover, I don't think CL has ever charge for bug fixes or incremental updates. CL has been very fair by my opinion. Bill