You guys are great! I actually understood Hawke and Kawecki. Both!! You're right Hawke, I didn't have a clue where the grouping tool was. This actually looks possible. I'm certain this is a one sided wall. Though I could be wrong. There's no interior. There is a simple but kinda elegant rectangular door drawn on the outside so I can fudge that on very simple primitive I think. I can't believe I'm saying any of these things.LOL!I don't mind if this can only be seen in middle range-- and I certainly don't mind fixing in post. I'm one of those texture people who run kicking and screaming from modeling but-- Hawke-- you should do tutorials, lots. You're good. You probably have, come to think of it. what do I know? You're right, SamTherapy, but we did get there finally. I am so thrilled, god, I love to learn things. If I screw up, well, I come back and say, I screwed up. But I still learned today. Thank you so much again, Emily