I bought 3D Gamemaker which is based on DarkBasic. Running it on a PC with Windows XP it was Crashtastic. I don't think I ever got it to run properly, and it was worse after updating from their website (which looked to me as if it hadn't been touched for a couple of years). The idea was great, I wish it worked for me, as putting my own models into a game seemed like fun. Let us know if DarkBasic is better. Groucho