Thanks for the comments, Toxe, I found the hands to be very tough to do,hopefully when I pose him I can make the hands and character look more natural looking . Tkane, a character creation tut would be hard to do ,maybe a simple character would work. Faclconperigot, thanks for the advice,I think I will need more when I try to pose him, I want to see the front of the character( didn't do much texturing to the back of him)and have his head turned looking towards the scene. Mike