Eovia has been good about putting out a patch in a reasonable amount of time. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a patch appear within a couple of weeks. The application isn't crippled. I'm using it pretty much like I always have without too much trouble. Just stay away from the depth of field option. My last comment in my original thread wasn't a shot at Eovia, it was actually a shot at Metacreations for dropping Carrara. Eovia has saved my LIFE! I really do think they've done a pretty great job of keeping the code alive and moving. The forum has had a lot of discussion whether this version was worth a full release or not. I think the animation improvements coupled with the nodal rendering stuff is a HUGE set of improvements. After having the pro version in my hands for a week now, I'm pleased to have version 4 and it was easily worth it. I feel so fervent about it that I'm going to buy another computer this week. -Kix

-Kix