great =) I could theoretically conform the clothes myself, but I'm lazy and don't want to grin so if you can do this stuff that'd be great. If you want to e-mail me that'd be great, use sprout@apocx.hypermart.net and anyone else willing to do conforming is also welcome of course =) oh, and UV Mapping. And textures would be nice too grin getting greedy now aren't I? Easy to get greedy when it's not you putting in the work =) I'll try to see what I can make from that site, the problem is the way I'm doing this I'm making clothing from patterns, then making that fit onto the figure, rather than modelling the object itself, so I can't use this method to make things like jackets SewerRat