Thanks... I realized that my original post might have been mis-interpreted to read something like 'look what I can do, can Carrara 4 do THIS...' and that wasn't my intention... I'm honestly interested in what it can do (since I've pre-ordered it), and I really hate doing post-work. I may end up doing some work for a local billiard league, and I was genuinely curious if C4, if properly set-up, could produce an image similar to this without the need for post-work. @Mike... don't worry about trying to set this up and work out the physics if you're busy (and I know you are)... I just wondered if any of you beta-testers had attempted anything similar...