Just to add my 1 1/2 cents here. It's not that a symmetrical modelling feature is absolutely necessary, but it IS in most, if not all, comparable software (price-wise), and it is a great feature. I was seriously thinking aout upgrading but after carefully looking at the upgrade, I doubt it. There are too many other options out there in the same price range...C4D comes to mind. Not to mention that C4D has particles and a free plug-in that allows collions to objects, not just the floor. Don't get me wrong, I love Carrara. I go way back to using the stripped down version Of RDS...called Ray Dream, but I'm just disappointed in what C4 seems to be evolving into. Maybe it's just not for me anymore... I'm getting tired of waiting for an integrated modeller, better animation features, particles, etc... Sorry for the rant...just want to make my voice heard.