Glad to hear 7 is getting better. For a long time I could not use it for more then a few minutes without a crash. As for Amapi 5, I have given up on it completely, I see now why Eovia included it free. Actually I don't see why they included it as it is virtually unusable on both of my systems (G5, and P4). The PC has the problems you state, but the Mac version is much worse. Major drawing issues that make it completely useless, at least in Classic mode with OS 9.2. I will try again when I get C4 Pro, and I will try out 6 next month when it is free on the next 3D World Mag... -Paul