It is too early in the day to say whether what DAZ will do with Bryce will be good or bad, but I think the right thing to do is wait and put forward our suggestions for what we'd like to see, otherwise we could end up with a Bryce we don't recognise. I do believe that DAZ will listen to what the users have to say because we know the program better than they do and know what all the bugs are and I do not believe they want to loose us as customers. 8) Catlin