yeah it does look pretty nice, as a vue 4 user i have to confess im starting to get tempted by c3, i was initialy trying to hold on for c4 to see what it would bring to the table, but what the heck, carrara and vue will make for a nice companionship :)considering that they do quite different things and i seriously doubt that will change. the one downside im finding with the c3 demo is the lackluster gui, but c3 + cadstyle and the powerpack feels tempting. with that said whats the scope on c4, any info @ all about it, or is it still to far off in development.