well the 'tree' id drawn in Illustrator id used one of the charcoal brushes..id been able to expand its appearance enough to be able to bring it into Carrara..and it looked more or less fine...well somewhere inbetween those 2..but i was hoping there might be an easier way to puff it out or round it out..maybe there was a super secret 'Do What I Say!" command that id overlooked somewhere..sigh...guess ill have to add that to my 'please add' list for the next version..:)..thanks for the thoughts...