Yeah I saw your announcement about the new plugin. Looks very nice. First on my list of things to purchase is the PowerPack. After that I will look into getting the new plugin. As far as global coordinates with bumpmapping I know its not impossible for it to be done. Lightwave does it. Must be something that is harder to program or requires a different approch to the renderer as you suggested. There are some situations where it comes in handy, cant remember when I have used it, but I know I have. But for now I will just work with local. Either way, if it doesnt work, they should remove the button from the options. Donnie