Zescanner, sorry it took me so long to reply, I really didn't think anyone would care about lighting mischances! I'm not QUITE sure what you meant, but do you mean that you can't get your scenes dark enough, even with the sunlight set to off? If so, you can use the haze and fog settings to "add" darkness. Just set their color to black and play with the levels until it fits your scene! This screen is from Bryce 4, but it works great in Bryce 5 as well. In fact, this is my default, startup sky. I grew tired of thinking only in the Light World...