I think I may just reinstall again and start from scratch. When I first got Poser I didn't realise how bad things could get when trying to find something. In the beginning I started using PInstaller but didn't understand the part about creating subfolders so everything got stored wherever. Now I do much of the installing by hand 'cos I've learned a bit about where everything is supposed to be and my later downloads are much better organised but Daz still confuses me 'cos not everything I buy from them goes to a Daz folder. Thanks for your words of wisdom Carolly, I don't know where I'd be at all if not for the help I've received in this forum. 8) Catlin