"nothing elaborate, just deliver what was originally promised..." Dave-So you expressed so well in these few words the wish of all the frustrated Poser 5 users. And a word for Katherine, who keeps us informed with legendary calm and outstanding courage under fire: My heart goes out to you for all your valiant efforts and I think I speak for everyone here when I say that our somewhat harsh words are not aiming at you; on the contrary we appreciate a lot the feedback you are giving us; our problem lies with CL and their reluctance (or shall I say indifference) to deal with their customers' problems for such a long time. I personally wish you all the best and hope that you are not fighting for a lost cause... :) As for those who had never experienced problems with Poser 5 what can I say? Magic is a wonderful thing as Harry Potter would say ;) I even know some people who never had problems with any of the various Windows OS releases... (nah, I'm jocking.... :)

"That's another fine mess you got me in to!" -- Oliver Hardy