Katherine: you have the patience of a saint! Thank you! Nevertheless, do forgive me for my rant: I pre-ordered Poser 5 way back before it was released on the faith that Curious Labs would do justice to the evolution of the much loved Poser software. To date, my copy of Poser 5 is still sitting on the shelf, waiting for a stable and usable SR patch. I am still stuck with Poser 4.03, which is now showing its age. Perhaps I am fortunate that money is not an issue (I've not requested for a refund) but cannot help feeling that my "investment" was totally wasted. The whole unforgivable fiasco has left me more than a little disappointed. Least to say, whatever goodwill and optimism I may have felt for Curious Labs has been completely eroded. Sadly, I would be extremely cautious of the next iteration of Poser. End of rant. Nevertheless, I wish both Ando-san and yourself the very best. :-(