Hi - Veritas777 and Panko (and others), SR4 is close to complete which I understand will likely cover the majority of hardware issues that cause freezing. Veritas777, I also understand your synopsis of the Poser legacy. I came from Fractal Design ('91) so I am personally familiar with then what happened with the Metatools acquistion that created Metacreations. I left for the reasons you express of frustration. CL now has the chance to return to the type of Fractal ethics that is needed in this industry. I know this may be lip service at this point in time, but as many posts are conveying - time - it speak louder than words of now. Kind regards, Katherine