that's funny... I had a doily in mine, but I thought to myself, "no, that looks like something Mark would do."... j/k :D actually, I did have a doily in the picture, but took it out because I was trying to import one that I had created in Bryce as a terrain from a grey-scale map.... but the mesh wasn't good enough, in my opinion (and I wanted the 3d shadows that I couldn't get using a plane and transmap). Then I noticed TJ's converter in free stuff that would help me accomplish what I was trying to do (the "plans" I had for it in post #9)... pretty coincidental.... By the way... nice candle.. :)