Thanks, This makes it all nice & simple, running Grouper on a Mac in virtual PC is a pain in the virtual A**. Because of the Macs handy Print-to-PDF feature I have saved this as PDF. Cheers, Grav.

Anytime I see something screech across a room and latch onto someone's neck, and the guy screams and tries to get it off, I have to laugh, because what is that thing?