Erosiaart, Agentsmith put his mugshot up in our previous rounds of what we look like. As for clay, his mugshot is on his website and there are some pics of him in the artists gallery. You can search by name there because his are from way way back, lol. He's been around since the beginning of time, hehe, renderosity time that is. I think someone way up in the threads here posted a link to that other mugshot thread. HTH :-D